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30 August 2003 @ 04:52 pm
Damn football.
Why do I care so much about sport?
Especially AFL, that testosterone laden orgy of violence.
But, still, it's a skillful game and I could easily discuss it's merits over other sports, other football codes.
Anyway, at least Essendon is in the finals.
I can't imagine them not making the finals, I don't think they've ever missed the finals during my lifetime.
But why do I care about this?
It defies logic.
Why was it so brain-numbingly depressing watching a bunch of guys I don't know lose a ball game to another bunch of guys I don't know?
I was born in Essendon, but I feel no particular patriotism to the suburb itself, nor any particluar malice to the suburb of Collingwood.
In fact I abhor the concept of patriotism, in all things it seems except sport.
I chew my fingernails to stubs watching the Davis Cup tennis, for instance.
But I firmly believe that the concepts of nations and nationality are outmoded and dangerous...
What is the allure of sport?
I fear, as it seems does my brother lukeii, a metamorphosis into a yobbo.
Current Mood: depresseddepressed
Current Music: Elvis Presley, The King
Outlier Manlukeii on August 30th, 2003 12:23 am (UTC)
I fear no such thing... I embrace yobboness... If it's a part of me, why fear it? Why get depressed over it? I love watching footy, and why should I listen to people who try to tell me I'm a lesser person for it? Screw them - they are the lesser person for compartmentilising me on the basis of interests.
Jacobyak_boy on August 30th, 2003 12:41 am (UTC)
Yet you yourself question if you can also be a geek.
I was depressed because Essendon lost actually, I was just questioning why I should care about it so deeply.
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Jacobyak_boy on August 30th, 2003 04:26 pm (UTC)
Actually, soccer is the one other football code that I believe actually has merit as a skillful sport. Rugby and grid iron are just about how hard you can biff.
parakleta on September 1st, 2003 04:41 am (UTC)
Rugby has a lot more to it than just biffing people... it's just that getting the other guy to the ground is a pretty undisputable way to resolve stopping someone. There's a lot more too it, and touch football using the same rules but without the squashing people bit was fun to play as a child, but lead to arguements about whether someone was touched or not.

I've never understood AFL, so I couldn't say, but soccer is good, I quite like soccer except for the whole taking a dive thing. The only live game I've seen in person I was disgusted with how often players fell over and then carried on trying to get a penalty. That's something that doesn't happen in Rugby either, the only things you aren't supposed to do tend to be the things that end up putting a player in hospital, so people tend not to play up those kinds of fouls...

I like motor sports better than the others though, with the exception of formula one... Production car races and rallies tend to be a lot of fun to watch.
Jacobyak_boy on September 2nd, 2003 12:46 am (UTC)
Re: Actually...
What I don't understand with Rugby is that these guys, with very little finesse, throw their entire bodyweight at some guy to stop him running forward, and yet they get penalised, and go in front of the tribunal, if they happen to hit him in the head/neck area. Of course if you throw your body at someone you're occasionally going to hit them high. It is not an exact science, so the rugby tribunal system is just a matter of dumb luck.

Motor sports are a paradox to me.
The most boring sport ever, watching cars go around and around in circles can quickly become the most exciting when there's a huge pile-up.
But on the whole boring, except for rallies.
I don't know what production car races are.
parakleta on September 2nd, 2003 02:06 am (UTC)
Production Car Races...
are when they race the same cars that you can buy off the show room floor, with safety equipment added and very few other changes. I find it interesting because it's kind of like rally, everything is less precise and there is more variety in what's going on.

Generally production cars aren't built for racing, there is more body roll, so they are harder to corner, but they have higher ground clearance, so the ripple strips aren't so scary. They are more resilient so the drivers tend to push the limits of the cars more, they don't disintegrate on contact. The car's tend to lose traction more easily, but because they are at slower speeds they tend to regain traction sooner, so the drivers tend to drift through corners a bit and things like that. There is also more room to recover from a mistake, so the drivers tend to drive a little more by the seat of their pants, so to say. Open class production car races are cool too, because the usual production car races everyone drives the same car, in the open class there is a mix of cars, from vipers, maseratis and ferraris to mazda 121s, ford kas and other subcompacts, it makes for quite an interesting race, because all the cars perform completely differently.

By comparison V8 supercars and Formula One I find quite boring because their is so little margin for error, that the drivers try to do exactly the same thing every lap, and try to run the perfect line, because to do otherwise would be too dangerous (or too slow). The people that win tend to be the ones that break the groove and do something risky to pull ahead, but that risk is often quite subtle and missed by the casual viewer, even I don't understand them properly, but you can tell cause the commentators start carrying on :)
Jacobyak_boy on September 2nd, 2003 02:31 am (UTC)
Re: Production Car Races...
Cool, where/when can I see these production car races, they sound interesting...
parakleta on September 2nd, 2003 03:36 am (UTC)
Re: Production Car Races...
The last one I watched was the MGF Trophy series, on last sunday 1:30-3pm, on Ten, on a show called Trackside.

Generally Ten is the channel that shows motor sports, and SBS sometimes. Sunday afternoons is the normal TV slot for motor sports on both channels, and late at night as well for Ten. It can be hit and miss week to week, depending on what events are on. But there's usually something interesting. SBS can sometimes have cool whacky races with like V10 jet boats and stuff... it can be cool to have on in the background if you're just browsing the web or something. Vintage cars and things like the Targa Rally in Tasmania can be cool as well.

Another really cool motor sport, of which there is too little televised, is sidecar racing. In this amazing sport there are two riders on a racing sidecar, one of which works the steering and throttle, and the other that works the balance, trying to keep all three wheels on the ground. It's amazing to watch the passenger doing all kinds of acrobatics on the incredibly small and sleek sidecar as it hurtles along at hundreds of k's an hour.