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26 June 2006 @ 03:35 pm
The difference between trolling and debating, part two  
I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating, and I don't know if I have actually said it in my own journal.

When I engage in a debate, I'm happy to be proven wrong. In fact, I want to be proven wrong, because that means I've learned something. There is no more noble a pursuit than the pursuit of knowledge.

That means I will actually pay attention to what you have to say, consider it and maybe alter my stance accordingly. If, at the end of a debate, both parties are actually in agreeance, then something has been achieved (and hopefully it's not just that one party bullied the other).

A troll, on the other hand, is someone who only wants to hold an opposite position in order to be inflammatory. So, they aren't interested in listening to reasoned argument and won't even concede the smallest point.

If someone is incapable of ever admitting they are wrong, they are just not worth talking to.

Of course, in the above aspect, a troll is largely indistinguishable from a zealot. But, there is no difference in my behaviour towards either.
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Outlier Manlukeii on June 26th, 2006 07:11 am (UTC)
I disagree.
proxyryanproxyryan on June 26th, 2006 07:22 am (UTC)
You are wrong and your opinions are crap.
Steph_megalomania_ on June 26th, 2006 07:57 am (UTC)
Damn. You beat me to it :P
psuedonym777: Cheeky Grinpsuedonym777 on June 26th, 2006 07:38 am (UTC)
Holy crap! I always suspected my grandmother was a troll when I was a child too. Nice to be finally proved right! :oP
Steph_megalomania_ on June 26th, 2006 08:13 am (UTC)
I totally agree.

It's usually easy to spot a troll. It never takes long before their point/argument degenerates into personal attacks and other idiotic behaviour.

A person more interested in debating the topic than being proven right - or getting one up on someone else - doesn't act like a five-year-old (as a general rule).

I'm repeating you. Sorry. But I agree with what you're saying.

Randomly...reading your post makes me think of this quote *points below*.

"You're so selfish! I always leave huge holes in my arguments so that you can destroy them with some simple logic. But not you! Oh no! It's always intelligent, reasonable point after intelligent, reasonable point!"
- Lano and Woodley
drbunsendrbunsen on July 12th, 2006 08:17 pm (UTC)
Was it something I said? :-)
Jacobyak_boy on July 13th, 2006 01:23 am (UTC)
Nope.