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16 January 2004 @ 07:49 am
LOTR:ROTK (Spoilers cut for your sanity)  
Okay, so I finally got around to seeing The Return of the King.

And to all you nay-sayers out there:

Awesome, truly awesome.

Yes, I have read the books, and yes there were a few minor differences to the story with certain parts condensed and certain (I'll admit, annoying) Hollywood style changes (for no reason other than to add unnecessary human drama), but to dwell on that would be needless nit-picking. To say that the movie was ruined because of the unfathomable crap about Arwen dying because of the ring or that the whole experience came to nought because of the absolute blasphemy of the fight between Sam and Frodo that sees the ever-faithful Sam abandon Frodo (if only for a brief time) would be missing the point. It's the same kind of nit-picking that had a lot of people complaining that Star Wars Episode Two was ruined because of "all the mushy romance crap", when there was about 5-10 minutes of romance in a 150 minute film.

So, nit-picking aside, the action was incredible and all the parts that I had been looking forward to seeing were portrayed either as well or better than I had expected. Especially the oath-breakers (the part I had been most excited to see on film since they announced these movies) who looked so incredibly different to what I expected - and so much better. And as if Orlando Bloom hadn't gained enough popularity from his portrayal of Legolas in the first two films, after the elephant scene, he's been raised to super-hero status (come on, tell me that wasn't awesome).

In summary - awesome action, a relatively faithful adaptation (unless you want to be overly anal, which I suspect many of you do), awesome action,amazing sets/scenery and awesome action.

I guess nobody told the guy that brought his 6 yr old daughter along to the screening that:
a) it was a war movie, and thus it was extremely violent
b) it was a long movie, and thus wasn't due to finish until around 11:30

So, she talked a little at the beginning (but no more so than the 20-something couple behind me who looked at me like I had just pissed on them when I shushed them (but at least they shut the-fuck up, and, surprisingly, so did the girl (but probably only because she was scared shitless))) and the guy ended up having to take her home around 3/4 of the way through the movie (although I'm not sure why, maybe because she was still trembling from the sight of decaptitated heads being flung over a wall with catapults). What a fuck-wit.

Did I mention the film was awesome?
 
 
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Outlier Man: firelukeii on January 15th, 2004 03:12 pm (UTC)
(This reply is under the assumption that a lot of your 'nit-picking' references are aimed at me)

For someone doing a writing course (which I admit doesn't NECESSARILY mean you are learning how to listen) you are very good at missing the point.
Jacobyak_boy on January 15th, 2004 09:33 pm (UTC)
Is Mr Ego going to explain the point then for a poor little misguided fool?

I wasn't talking exclusively about you, since I have heard/read a lot of story-mangling complaints elsewhere.


I will add a little anecdote, although I can't remember who the author was (even though my anecdote is probably missing the point).

Friend of author watches film adaptation of author's novel and says to author, "did you see what they did to your novel?"
Author plucks novel from shelf and says, "it looks fine to me, they don't seem to have damaged it at all."

If nothing else this trilogy has gotten a lot more people reading Tolkien's magnificent books.
Mr Sinisterglintsinisterglint on January 15th, 2004 03:20 pm (UTC)
And as if Orlando Bloom hadn't gained enough popularity from his portrayal of Legolas in the first two films, after the elephant scene, he's been raised to super-hero status (come on, tell me that wasn't awesome).
Okay: that wasn't awesome. Really. I thought it was one of the worst scenes in the film. And when he slides down the Oliphaunt's collapsing corpse and lands on his feet – ugh, don't get me started.

But, eh, you evidently enjoyed the film, so more power to you.
Jacobyak_boy on January 15th, 2004 09:37 pm (UTC)
Okay: that wasn't awesome. Really. I thought it was one of the worst scenes in the film. And when he slides down the Oliphaunt's collapsing corpse and lands on his feet – ugh, don't get me started.

Well, there was never anything in any of the films to suggest that he didn't have the skill to do this - in fact the opposite was true (even the mere fact that he had survived so many battles showed he had an enormous amount of skill). More to the point, it was a fantasy film, and part of that fantasy is that elves are incredibly gifted with dexterity. During that scene I was never transported away from the fantasy, I just found it a bit of highly enjoyable action that fit seamlessly with the rest of the story. Whether it fits with Tolkien's personal vision of what Elves are and what they can do is another matter.
Jessjess2903 on January 16th, 2004 05:06 pm (UTC)
Legolas
I agree, that elephant scene was awesome, just as cool as when Legolas slid down the stairs on the shield shooting his arrows. Very fake, but who cares? I think the scene with Eowyn and the Witch King was better though. Go girls!
Robet Éivaayvah on January 15th, 2004 04:14 pm (UTC)
I watched and enjoyed Fight Club without ever reading the book. Is it a crime if people watch and enjoy Lord of the Rings without reading the books? I find it bizarre.

My sister said she actually liked Return of the King, and that means something because she hated the first two.
Jacobyak_boy on January 15th, 2004 09:41 pm (UTC)
I watched and enjoyed Fight Club without ever reading the book. Is it a crime if people watch and enjoy Lord of the Rings without reading the books? I find it bizarre.

Absolutely not, and I didn't think that I suggested that it was. But I would say that you should do as I did after I saw Fight Club, go out and read the books. It is worth it, Tolkien's books are much better than the films (if you can even compare book to film). Although, in the case of Fight Club, I preferred the movie.
Robet Éivaayvah on January 16th, 2004 06:46 pm (UTC)
There are a lot of books I need to get around to reading. ^_^;;
Jacobyak_boy on January 16th, 2004 10:28 pm (UTC)
Me too.
Gregpeachofpain on January 15th, 2004 04:54 pm (UTC)
legolas has indeed it seems taken a few levels in Ninja
Jacobyak_boy on January 15th, 2004 09:42 pm (UTC)
"legolas has indeed it seems taken a few levels in Ninja"

If Elves can do that kind of shit I'm never playing any other race again.
Gregpeachofpain on January 15th, 2004 10:59 pm (UTC)
well they ARE the master race
Some guy called Lap?harkon on January 16th, 2004 04:13 pm (UTC)
you should see the elves in exalted.